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Baptism: When To Say No

Most of my relatives should know by now that our child will not be baptized in the Church (Catholic, I guess is what you'd call it). Even though I was brought up Catholic, and received sacraments all the way up to Confirmation when I was 15 years old, my wife and I opted not to marry in the church. For her part, she comes from a religious family as well, and yet her mother was supportive 100% with the idea that we do what we feel is best. Religion is hardly worth it if you feel guilted or forced into receiving some of the most precious sacraments.

BaptismWhile my wife's family has their share of religious zeal (luckily this is in the extended part of her family), we don't see them often. On my side, I do see my extended family somewhat frequently, so the questions are starting to pour in about baptism dates. I haven't yet had the heart to tell them that there will be no baptism, silly: if we weren't married in the church, what priest would baptize our baby anyhow? The problem is, logic doesn't apply to the people I'm dealing with.

Religion is touchy, as there are all matters of tradition, not all of it healthy, that get wrapped into that one word and idea. My mother has a gown that plenty of her family had worn during baptism. There are priests my family and my wife's family knows. There's even my own personal Catholic guilt, still rolling around back there in my mind: is it okay to not baptize the baby? Maybe we should just to be safe?

Having a child was already a life-affirming experience, and I wouldn't want to ruin that by going through the motions of a ceremony intended to save the soul of a child supposedly born with "original sin". My wife says it best: "I don't think a newborn has ever done anything wrong, so how can they say someone so young needs to be saved?" Besides, baptism used to be performed in adulthood, when one could at least make a conscious decision to be baptised or not. If my son wants to be Christian or Catholic later in life, I won't stop him, but at least it will be his choice.

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Confirmation; Choice is Built Into the Catholic Operating System

Frank,

I was sitting in my RCIA class today and the Sacraments of Initiation were a subject of discussion. Alex's comment:

"...you could also view it more innocently, as an introduction to a tradition I assume you and your wife has gone through when you were babies."

*IS* what the "mythology" is about. Its about initiating (hence the above phrase in caps) the person into the community of the faithful, or into the Catholic tribe, if you will.

Confirmation is when one decides whether to be Catholic or not and takes place when one is ready... and you could always tell the young one to wait until they are an adult to make that choice.

this is true, as i have not

this is true, as i have not felt Catholic. still, a couple of things linger for me:

1) we're not Catholic, and don't intend to bring him up Catholic
2) you mention the word innocense, but the idea behind baptism implies cleansing the soul of original sin, something we don't believe in.

I think the Christian umbrella always looks better when there's some urgency behind it, and looks corrupt and foolish when it's done overtaking all elements of society. With Islam expanding into Europe at an increasing rate, it'll be interesting to see how the religion rebounds even as it focuses on telling people in the third world to continue reproducing and thus making more customers.

I guess that makes sense

I guess that makes sense in your case, if you no longer have anything to do with the Church.
Yes, baptism assumes original sin, but there's also several ways of looking at that, such as that we're simply born imperfect and that being introduced to a certain moral system is a way of managing that imperfection.

I think Islam will grow in Europe, even among native Europeans, but will later create a strong anti-Islamic movement. We're seeing a bit of both already.

Baptism

Interesting post. I think you and your wife take a rational approach to the mythology behind the ceremony, but you could also view it more innocently, as an introduction to a tradition I assume you and your wife has gone through when you were babies. It's unlikely he'll necessarily feel Catholic just because he once was baptized.

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