Feminism Sucks, Say Women

I saw Alex's recent column touching on feminism and was reminded of some of my recent interactions with mothers. I know these women through work and have to talk to them for work-related material, but being a new father the subject of children always comes up.

I'm aware of social boundaries, particularly in the work place, so when I get started on a topic I feel passionately about I'm always very careful what I say at work. A couple of women talked about how they hate the idea of day care but really need their job. One told me "feminism sucks" when I finally eased the conversation toward the idea that we're stuck in a conundrum of two incomes being necessary to maintain our modern standard of living. Our entire economy is built on the idea now that both parents will work full time and contribute to the economic pie, even if part of that contribution is day care for children who would otherwise be at home. Who wouldn't see this as completely backwards?

I used the example of student loans. Way back when, before student loans, colleges were selective but even private universities weren't insanely expensive. Since everyone paid their own way or borrowed money from the school at very low interest rates, say 1%, if they needed to, colleges & universities focused on learning instead of money. Once you involve student loans to give people the "opportunity to learn", even though that opportunity always existed, it artificially inflates the cost of education. Down the road, you have insanely high tuition rates and people end up having to borrow money to pay it off with future income, another symptom of our debt culture. Never mind the fact that now everyone goes to school for a bachelor's, watering down the meaning for those who truly belonged in an advanced academic environment after grade school.

The same is true for the women's movement. If you inject a ton of new people into the work force, a few years later you'll have a spike in economic growth because family incomes on average have increased but prices haven't caught up yet. When companies finally realized they could charge more for services like day care and school, and credit card companies realized they could get more people to borrow more money, prices climbed. Now day care is barely worth the tradeoff to go to work for many women. Who would want to pay a good salary for someone making $10/hour to raise their child for 8 hours/day?

No wonder even women tell me that feminism sucks.

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Frank

... and yet you never get around to why students go into debt in the first place, they are afraid of not attaining a middle class lifestyle since their parents drilled them that "school is everything, university is everything or else you will be poor!"

You think anyone wants to go BACKWARDS in terms of their standard of living? This is where I part ways with corrupt and it's inabiltiy to criticize capitalism itself, where alex takes criticism of capitalism to heart and starts calling people commies and lefties, rather then seeing that capitalism PROMOTES decay within itself, it's like a snake that eats it's own tail, as we've seen with the bailout of the banks in the united states, socialism for elites is acceptable and it's the tough love of the free market for everyone else.

We have allowed businesses special rights and privledges they don't deserve, we have been conditoned to accept advertising and allowing anyone with enough money to buy laws or corrupt people to allow all sorts of bullshit in the media, food system and politics.

Because deep down most people are whores, no matter what ideal or idealogy they claim tp represent or believe, they will do anything for money despite their moralizing if there was enough money and an enormous increase in lifestyle.

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