This (video?) isn't showing anymore. (On my computer at least.)

For those who'd be interested, the title of this post comes from chapter 6 of Driscoll's book about the crisis of vanishing manhood in America, "Porn-Again Christian":
http://relit.org/porn_again_christian/ch6.php

Mark Driscoll on corrupt.org? Never thought I'd see the day. Thanks for sharing...

I agree with the oversimplification argument. Fundamentalists generally aren't the deepest of thinkers. But, I would have to agree with Mark that there are too many adult males who are infantile in their approach to life.

Good for him that he's challenging those males in his megachurch and through his online ministry with this.

I think he challenges the nonsense bluntly (the materialistic excess and accepted juvenile behavior). Overall the point he's making is accurate (while obviously being presented in a Christian framework). I enjoyed watching.

The video has some debatable points (ie. the givers/consumers dichotomy which is entirely symbolic; since married with children doesn't make you any less of a consumer - it just changes your demographic group) - but overall, I think it was a pretty good and honest video, even with the Christian dogmatism.

Good stuff Alex, thanks for posting it.

to move out of the house you need a get a good job

to finish school, you will need money, so if nobody pays for you, you will need a rip off student loan, or a good job.

to get a good job requires formal education or training, so see step 2. and with a collapsed market, nothing but crappy joe-jobs are available, the same ones he says doesn't qualify...try again next time

get a girl, court her, marry her - usually requires 1 and 3

have kids - requires 1, 3 and obviously 4

how times change. no wonder people get trapped in adolescence, they can't find good jobs, feel that they can't afford to move out of their parents homes and because of this can't find women. more and more people with formal education are finding themselves trapped at gas stations and macdonalds struggling to pay their student loans. People are ready for the real world and responsibilities, they just don't feel those responsibilities presenting themselves to them. So with nothing better to do, they work menial jobs and come home to play video games till their next shift. and since their student loans are so expensive, they save on rent money at home with ma and pa.

But this is oversimplified religious tripe I hate. Religious people are not inherently more moral then secular people, the worst part about it is if we found out later that the guy doing the preaching is getting laid like mofo on the side and just loves his porn, and had some curious kiddie porn on his computer.

Most every guy on earth LOVES porn, they did a study on this a while back and they could NOT find a male since the advent of the internet in north america that had NEVER viewed porn and I bet if we could be the invisible ghost hawking what this guy does in real life he'd instantly be found a hypocrite.

While he rags on guys, what about the girls? Many guys are turned into pussies because young women are just inhuman in their cruelty towards guys. Christian females today are certainly not very Christian I can tell you that for certain from all the easy lays I've had from those "good girls", good girls are some of the most repressed, and hence the most kinky they are just brimming with all that pent up sexual energy, many christian females are among the MOST likely to give it up as quickly as possible.