Feminism - Don't Fight It

During a party I attended last weekend me and a couple of guys from Germany and France were slacking out; drinking beer and playing cards. Suddenly the party was raided by an army of feminists who barged in and demanded we socialize with them. Them being women and us being men, we didn't decline the offer. Ten minutes later and I'd managed to offend their flock leader, so they took off, and we had a good laugh. And it was right there that I came to think of it: fighting feminism isn't worth the trouble.

Feminism is like the karmic tar baby Brett Stevens talks about: the more you punch it, the more it will stick to you like glue. You can't fight it because the cause itself becomes counter-productive. Very few men are able to attack, criticize or make fun of feminism without coming off as defensive losers. Women who attack feminism are portrayed as victims of an oppressive housewife lifestyle. We might as well ask ourselves the question what good comes out of attacking feminism at all.

I've said before I'm not against feminism for all women and I stand by that comment. The reason for this is simple enough: some women have male-oriented mental and physical capabilities, and if they want to become the next Angela Merkel or Tyra Banks, I honestly don't see the problem. Feminism becomes a problem when it's applied to women as a collective, because they'll only shoot themselves in the foot and regret their lifestyle when they turn 40.

Many women nowadays postpone marriage and family, which is a problem if you want to maintain a civilization, but I'm not sure we'll be able to somehow force these women to form families and quit higher education. If these women really don't want to have children now, or at all, they're probably not emotionally ready to manage family life anyway. If they pick career over kids, they stand or fall on that choice. The most important thing is that women who do want a family early on in life have the possibility to do so economically, without necessarily ruining their chances of getting a decent job in the future.

My message to all men, who feel they need to constantly defend themselves against feminists, is to wait this one out. If women think they feel most happy playing socially dominant and physically strong, let 'em do it. We'll have a good laugh watching most of them fail and bending over in the bedroom despite all leftist theory--and those who don't and get far in life, good for them. We don't deny anyone happiness. We're Conservative realists who believe in human biological diversity (HBD). Depending on how you respond to reality, you will either become an asset to your culture, or a problem. Take your pick.

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Thank you. I have lately been

Thank you. I have lately been wondering what HBD stands for ;).
Me and my little group of conservatives were planning on spreading some anti-socialist and anti-feminist propaganda. But we couldn't really balance the anti-feminist propaganda, no matter how polite you write, you end up sounding like a pig. Good adivce, we will probably leave it to rest.

feminism and inslavery of men

Avoiding to fight feminism is a huge mistake, like a wise priest was telling me we are becoming "men in tights", our freedom at home and at work is in the balance
We are being depossess in the court, we will be their slave before long by our lack of agressivity, wake up please! it doesn't work to ignore Feminism

Alex surely didn't mean to surrender politically

This was written by someone who hadn't seen the other reply:

[no matter how polite you write, you end up sounding like a pig. Good adivce, we will probably leave it to rest]

No. Men won't let conservative politicians and pundits "leave it to rest". I've got dozens of US Senators following me on Twitter and conservative women never unfollow me because they're often more gutsy than men in taking on Marxist feminist lawmaking. Alex was not talking about politics and surely did not mean for the Republican Party to roll over to the National Organization for Women and let them have whatever new law they want. If you are going to be in conservative politics, you will meet up with men's rights advocates (MRAs) and one hopes you will work with them openly. These guys are mostly alpha male CEOs and VPs with very little time on their hands and they need support from the ranks. You wrote this apparent political surrender statement before seeing the other reply made at the same time. Alex can clarify better but he seemed to be saying that, in your personal life or when commenting online in a non-politically focused manner, it doesn't pay to get mired in arguments with feminists.

This is true. The best way to beat feminists in your personal life is to date the best looking women and enjoy life while the ideologues complain about being someone's victim.

However, the *only* way for the Republicans to win again is to win back the huge part of the male vote that abandoned the Republican Party starting with the ridiculous alliance with feminists over Monica Lewinsky. Feminists (representing wives and divorcees now as opposed to the carefree young women they were in the 1960s) had been trying for 20 years to stop men from abandoning them and dating their secretaries, calling that "sexual harassment" and calling the secretaries "captive to the patriarchy". Ken Starr and George W made themselves the knights in shining armor to the Hillary supporters who abandoned Gore (Republicans tried and failed to do the same thing against Grover Cleveland 110 years before). Men didn't realize that the Hillary types were going to take over in the Republican Party after that...they found that all they had to do was pretend they were against abortion and for the Iraq War and voila...look at Tammy Bruce and half of Bush's appointees.

They will fill a vacuum politically and they have done so. Give them an inch and they *will* take a mile as they have already done and swear to continue to do. Look at the current attempt by NOW to get an International VAWA passed that will basically authorize another extra $1Billion in taxpayer money to spread feminism internationally while blackening the name of American males as a service to "protect foreign women". It will probably get passed because there is too little resistance.

It is only via Twitter that men are finally gaining traction in telling Republican politicians that they *must* start speaking out against the NOW and its metastasized offspring on the right as well as left. Norm Coleman dissed MRAs and about 1000 in Minnesota agreed to vote for Al Franken in order to take revenge. Coleman is now unemployed.

If you want to stand out as conservative men who can actually bolster the party instead of mimicking others while preaching to the choir (about health care or socialism), please target Democrat males who still have a pair, especially the African-American males who hate "victim-oriented feminism" but think that Obama is their hero because he beat the feminist Clinton for the nomination.

I'm not French..

"No. Men won't let conservative politicians and pundits "leave it to rest". I've got dozens of US Senators following me on Twitter and conservative women never unfollow me because they're often more gutsy than men in taking on Marxist feminist lawmaking. Alex was not talking about politics and surely did not mean for the Republican Party to roll over to the National Organization for Women and let them have whatever new law they want."

Who's talking about surrendering? I'm not French. It's good that you're dedicated but what I make out of Alexs post (And Bretts) is that a too straight forward, agressive approach is nothing but counter-productive. Also living in a small town, being mostly a hobby-politician, not a member of the republican party, it's probably better not to actively spread too offensive propaganda.

Still the problem of VAWA and IMBRA

Alex,

Great to see you exist but oh, if only feminism was just a bunch of young foolish women heading toward spinsterhood to join their cat owning sisters.

The problem is these people control Congress now. Not to mention the Executive Branch including Homeland Security + much of the US federal judiciary and, worst of all, the American Bar Association. They've gotten laws like VAWA and IMBRA passed and they get $1Billion in US federal funding to keep themselves (thankfully mostly incompetently) employed and working against us to consolidate their power.

You are forgetting the victimhood complex that seeks to regulate and punish men, often with false accusations and a huge hatred for older males that date younger women (already established in federal court that a 35 year old who sleeps with a 21 year old is a pervert and a dangerous "controller - NOW said of the Letterman joke last spring that they believe the joke was about the 18 year old Palin daughter but the imagery of a 34 year old ARod with an 18 year old was "violent").

Please follow on Twitter @EagleForumInfo not for their reliigous attitude, but because they are the most powerful anti-feminist women's group out there that "gets it:"

Then please follow Ifeminists.com and GlennSacks.com and MensNewsDaily.com and OnlineDatingRights.com

VAWA puts $1Billion per year in feminist hands and allows women to falsely accuse men they live with to profit financially. IMBRA has been upheld in court w mangina judges saying "There is not fundamental liberty interest in an American contacting a foreigner for a relationship".

On Twitter note @DefiningManhood @objectifychicks @mensnews @veteransabroad and do a search under men's rights or MRA to find more.

Just because blind guys stigmatize any guy who fights for his rights, doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. Please read up and join the very real fight to win the US Government back to be at least half on our side.

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