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Those Deep People
by Martin Regnen
Over at Deadspin, Will Leitch writes that he can't understand Kurt Warner, but is inspired by him anyway. He's writing about Warner the way one might write about a Shakespearean hero, which I think makes a lot of sense.
Warner doesn't confound me, though. I can understand him because except for being really good at a really well-paying job (and yeah, that's pretty important), he's a lot like me. The one thing I can add to this is that you don't have to have especially strong religious beliefs to be that way. I don't, but I'm still never "nervous in an existential way" because I just find those existential questions completely uninteresting.
Yeah, a lot of people say all that makes me shallow or horrible or evil or whatever, but I sure as hell would never trade it for being deep. I know some deep people, and being deep seems like a horrible annoyance. But maybe I'm missing something. Do deep people enjoy being deep?
So I got around to reading the article...
and what the heck is wrong with you, Regnen? There's nothing deep about Warner. He's as shallow as you can be in the sense that he has a clear head. A man resigned to his fate as an imperfect being at the mercy of something greater. He calls it God, others call it by a different name. But it's pretty straightforward and admirable; not for his religious views but for his dedication and humility to an idea most of us have long abandoned.
What's wrong with me?
I never said Warner was deep, I'm contrasting him (and myself) to "deep people". I agree that he's straightforward and admirable, though Leitch finds him confouding and admirable instead.
ah...
My mistake. "Deep people" is a fancy description for confused ones. Life much simpler than some make it out to be. And Leitch, eh, I saw this guy once on television. Not someone I admire, to say the least.
It's because you're
It's because you're unintelligent, Martin. Clearly the most unintelligent writer here, by far.
I don't think this makes you shallow or evil, either. Just dumb. And I accept that the world is full of dumb people.
fair point
most navel gazers are self pitying and self destructive. if thats what being deep means then I'm with you Martin, no thanks.
Deep people's Wisdom, depression & selfdestruction
The stats show that friendship, values & marriage are steeply declining in Western society & that it gets worse every year, so its inevitable for a wise person to feel depression & selfdestruction. Corrupt must help them. Morons like Regnen & his ilk are simply dumb cowards who'd put their head in the sand, The Majority whose banal shallowness perpetuates the same decline they willingly shut their eyes to.
To answer your question
To answer your question, I'd say that being deep in and of itself is actually pretty miserable. But, when you're pondering a 'deep' question, and you come up with a nifty answer, there's some pleasure there. You feel accomplished because you solved a problem.
Come to think of it, the misery of 'deep' people is probably why so many of them are alcoholics and drug addicts. When you spend all your time thinking, it's nice to be stupid for a while.
Good answer!
Or, at least, the kind of answer I was hoping to get. I can see some pleasure to be had there, and that helps me understand those I jokingly called "deep people".
What the..
What the hell are you people babbling about, and, more importantly, what the hell is Regnen babbling about?
I think this is one of those where you have to read the article Regnen linked to; something I don't care to do but also something that all of you jerks commenting haven't done either.
Africans have lower rates of
Africans have lower rates of suicide but higher rates of drug abuse, obesity and alcoholism. Pick your poison.
Black people lack existential fear & insight
As a group, Black people are the least prone to suicide despite living in the most poverty out of any other group. There's yet to be a Black philosopher, psychologist non-afrocentric academic, astronomer or non-autistic visual artist. Black people are, if anything, PRACTICAL. But what they should refrain from, is thinking that everyone who isnt on their level is as odd as those concepts they cant relate to.
"Do deep people enjoy being deep?"
That's something I ask myself almost every day, which is a bit of a Catch-22. The obvious upside is the insight and maybe the occasional 'wisdom' you can impart on others. The downsides are that it can affect social functioning (as you analyse certain things unnecessarily and may struggle to turn that switch off), and that it's indicative of a lack of stimulating activity in your life with which to occupy your mind.
There's a good saying I stumbled across the other day: "The more we do, the less we think. The more we think, the less we do. But one without the other is dangerous, other without the one is wasteful."
I hope I have touched on your definition of 'deep', there.
Deep?
Deepness varies from person to person. In fact most average people would see people at corrupt people as deep because they actually think about and want to solve problems in the world.
When we say "deep" if you think a person has "depth", if we were to seriously ask the question "who is deep?" there would be a lot of people we are glad are deep (doctors, professionals, technologists, scientists, etc).
Almost all jobs civilization depends on require some amount of "depth" or "deepness".
If "deep" means pretentious twat trying to stroke his ego by announcing he's a "professional x/y/z" and boasting, then no, that person is not deep.
Deep people often are only deep with company that appreciates those kinds of conversations and have the endurance and interest to have genuine dialogue.
The question isn't really "is there upside"...
...but "does the upside make you happier".
There is clearly an upside. We need some people around who ponder those "who are we, where are we going" questions, but it seems they're less happy than guys like me who would answer that with "I'm a dude with big plans and I'm going out this evening" and laugh. But maybe they get some happiness out of it too?
Population quality issues
"but it seems they're less happy than guys like me who would answer that with "I'm a dude with big plans and I'm going out this evening" and laugh. But maybe they get some happiness out of it too?"
Because some of those deep people often wish the world was filled with more people like them that can see the faults in themselves so clearly that they see in others who do not have the ability nor the interest to acknowledge them, but they keep this to themselves. Knowing that responsibility and community have to be chosen, there suffering is a good thing since it motivates them to write and analyze and leave the world better then they found it, I see the "suffering" part more as a sensibility and awareness to injustice to all the people that are suffering in the world, from their own ignorance and from their own barbarity of their biological constitution which they've inherited.
Concerned deep people, see science of biology as a frontier to understand and possibly reshape the kinds of people that are not now possible and make them real.
No. You are more happy as a
No. You are more happy as a dumb whore. Atleast for a while.