Yes, You Are Inadequate

I love the world for its inherent humour. So does Alfred, who recently mocked English students failing to understand the words “despotic tyranny” for their history A-level exam. These students have started up a Facebook group ("'Despotic Tyranny' ruined my life") where they whine about this. Of course, Corrupt was there.

Among all the hilarity one could pull out, I like what Kirsty Marion Wallace-Herbert wrote:

Kirsty Marion Wallace-Herbert (Farnborough Sixth Form College) wrote
at 16:52 yesterday
basicallyyyyyyyy anyone with half a brain cell should have known what despotic tyranny meant. the exam was good. go read the dictionary.

Paris Hart (Havering Sixth Form College) wrote
at 17:09 yesterday
you read the dictionary? go get a life :)
i would recommend reading a thesauras though, because we've heard those words a million times.

Kayleigh Smirk (Barton Peveril) wrote
at 03:03
Kirsty, you're the one demonstrating being an immature childish twat by commenting on a page that
A) so many have done before
and
B) joining a group just to bash the people in it
How much of a loser are you? lolz

Wait, so the reply is essentially "WUT, U POINT OUT OUR FAULTZ, ELITIST"? Impressive, even for English students. More from the UK Commentators blog:

...in our wider reading which I assure you myself and other students at my sixth form completed, the focus was not on Hitler as a despot but on how the system of government impacted everyday life and how it operated.

How much imagination does it take to apply your knowledge of "how the system of government impacted everyday life and how it operated" to "Hitler as a despot"? Apparently, too much. No great authors or philosophers from this generation of students, either. Oh well, life goes on, and we all get a laugh from those who haven't figured this out.

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Aw, you mentioned me in your

Aw, you mentioned me in your article. I'm really touched.

This article is frankly pathetic.

I love so much to read the thoughts of snobbish writers?/'journalists?/anybody willing to share their opinios on matters they know very very little about.

I took the exam in question and I too had never come across the phrase 'despotic tyranny'. Fortunately the phrase came from a source which presented a completely intentionalist viewpoint allowing students to infer the meaning of despotic tyranny, as I did. The paper was indeed manageable, however regardless I oppose the dribble written above.

It remains:
1. The wording was unneccersarry, in the previous ten years of this module the paper had not been presented in any way, shape or form in such a diluted fashion.
2. Your quotes go no way to representing the views of all A-level students.
3. You present a pathetic straw man arguement, whereby you try to suggest the confusion of some students must subsequently mean the ignorance of all UK students, lets apply your methodology; some Americans have an IQ of less than 50, your American thus you must have an IQ of less than 50. (This may not be too far from the truth, excuse me, bad example.)

False

The argument that the grade hinged on that word seems false to me.

You could argue throughout the essay exactly what kind of tyranny you thought he had, and neglect the word completely. It is unlikely the examiner would feel like being harsh on you just because you may have not been slick enough in your essay writing skills to fool him or her into you not knowing quite exactly what the word meant, using strategic neutral insertions of the word in your discussion.

Once used this technique in a history GCSE paper where there was a question amongst a multitude asking about a particular reformist of dealing with criminals. Knew nothing about the person, just wrote what I knew about reformation. This is an even more extreme example.

However, think I once gained advantage in a test by knowing what the word 'epitaph' meant. Admittedly, there was a selection of questions to choose from rather than just one. But that was a relatively easier question to answer.

Another point to take is that noone seems to take historians seriously unless they use Them Big Words.

Agreed

If there's one thing you should learn in school it's how to convincingly answer questions you don't understand about subjects you have no clue about. Any teenager, even one who slept through all the history courses and has never run across the word "despotic", should know enough about Hitler to bullshit their way to a decent answer.

If you don't know the language...

...then you should probably refrain from using it...

...as demonstrated quite clearly in the last response posted. It's ironic, really, that we are the most technologically advanced we've ever been in history and yet, we cannot spell even simple helping verbs correctly. If anything, Kristy is merely, as it appears, trying to suppliment her vocabulary. I would read dictionaries and thesauruses for the simple fact that there are more misused words in the english language now than ever. It makes me a little sad for painfully obvious reasons to see these are the folks that will inheret the earth...regardless if they like it or not. And people want to think highly of themselves as it is a very easy way of hiding a broken ego.

But these people are in college...should they not already know what a despotic tyrrany is? How do you not know what a despot is? Or a tyrrany? How? This alone is sufficent proof that one can stupidly spend 50k to augment his learning and learn nothing but how to fit in with his fellow retards...

Christ

People don't half get their knickers in a twist over use of words. Surely they can't infer from the context what is meant by "despotic tyrant"?

Good to see my old Sixth Form College has some sound representation though!

You clearly haven't seen the

You clearly haven't seen the exam paper, otherwise you'd have to be pretty stupid to make that comment. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. The entire source in which the term "despotic tyranny" was contained was of the structuralist school of thought. This means that the passage pointed towards the Third Reich as a polycratic, disorganised, and even somewhat chaotic party, which, before you mock (as many others have done) is an entirely respected theory of the Third Reich. So, if we did in fact infer the term's meaning from the source as a whole, we would have quite rightly (given the context) deduced that it meant wither "chaotic" or "disorganised". Your comment is yet another of the endless reams of arrogant, holier-than-thou replies we've been experiencing from il-informed adults ever since this exam. Finally, let me just point out that we have no problem with a student using this word in their answer, as it would indeed show a good grasp on history and its specialist terms, but for the exam board to use such a term in the question is elitist and unfair; for a student's grade to hinge entirely on his or her understanding of one word is ridiculous, and not exactly a good indicator of their knowledge of the history of the Third Reich. Am i wrong?

You didn't know a basic word,

You didn't know a basic word, you guessed incorrectly, you got caught out. That you've never come across the word before could suggest many negative things about you. Other students didn't get caught out and these are the ones that deserve to do well, and now will, thanks to the bumper crop of failures this year. For that I am very grateful. The point of exams is to separate the wheat from the chaff, something they hardly do nowadays. You're the chaff; deal with it.

The students and universities are correct: the exam was a complete success.

I do not understand why

I do not understand why people who did not sit this exam keep commenting on it. Luckily, i worked out what despotic meant but i understand how some students would think it meant chaotic by looking at the other sources. I think its really unfair that you are saying people deserve to fail because they didnt know the meaning of one word. Its sad that you get joy from other peoples failures.

I've been linked to this site

I've been linked to this site through one of my students. I know a lot of this exam, as I was one of the professors who wrote it. The person who wrote this:

"You clearly haven't seen the exam paper, otherwise you'd have to be pretty stupid to make that comment. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. The entire source in which the term "despotic tyranny" was contained was of the structuralist school of thought."

That's very correct. Congratulate yourself on this. Much of corrupt has fallen apart in its ideological structure. Abstract views are a beauty to this world. Much of corrupt seems to be more of a machiavellianist attempt of lifestyle. I was told that this place use to be good.

Call me ill-informed but...

I thought this issue was over the use of the words "despotic tyranny", that being that students weren't familiar with the word 'despotic' (indicating a possibly limited lexicon on the part of the students) and/or perhaps being confused by the tautology, rather than anything pertaining to the question itself.

Dare I say you might be barking up the wrong tree, Mr. Anonymous?

"The entire source" Can you

"The entire source"

Can you elaborate? I thought it was just a simple question "How far do you agree that Hitler’s role in 1933-45 was one of despotic tyranny?"

I agree that the question was awfully written and repetitive, but the context is clear. How about these questions:

How far do you agree that Hitler’s role in 1933-45 was one of tyranny?
How far do you agree that Hitler’s role in 1933-45 was one of despotism?

Tyranny and despotism are essentially the same in meaning. These are essential terms to know for any serious student of history. I seriously doubt A-level history goes into depth regarding "structuralism" or other academic jargon as such.

Also, please don't accuse anyone of elitism. If you don't know history, you don't know history. When you study history in English, it's important to pick up terms like these.

This would be funny if it

This would be funny if it wasn't so scary. If those were my kids I'd give them a good beating...and a dictionary.

Idiotic

That was inspiring......

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