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[prime]

Because the world likes to shit on anything good, our hosting provider has removed mailing lists:

From: DreamHost <support@dreamhost.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 2:17 PM
Subject: Final reminder - Discussion Lists will Be Removed

This email serves as a friendly reminder that all discussion list data will
be permanently removed from our servers on July 21, 2026. You currently
host the following discussion lists:

   -   right@lists.amerika.org
   -   rt@lists.amerika.org
   -   metal@lists.deathmetal.org
   -   staff@lists.deathmetal.org
   -   writers@lists.deathmetal.org

To prevent the permanent loss of your community's history and contact information, please log into the DreamHost Panel and perform a full Account Backup before the deadline. If you previously enabled archiving for your list, those will be included in your backup as well. These files can be imported into any Mailman 2 server, or kept for your own records.

If you need any assistance with the backup process or have any questions, please contact our support team

Thank you for being a part of the DreamHost community.
DreamHost

I suspect this is their frustration for being frequent targets of Google's monopolistic DKIM/SPF scam.

In any case, while I will look into renting another server to run a Mailman 2 instance, generally speaking I think the Google spam filter problem (which has increased spam and the quality of deception in spam, making it a failure like all Google products; stay away from Waymos!) the sensible response is probably to use the forum instead.

[prime]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm just moving us to the forum. Here's why:

1. Forums are thriving, especially on the right, and the data is persistent and visible. Better than having to move between archives and email.

2. DH is not stupid and there's a reason they are getting out of mailing lists, and that reason is the DKIM/SPF/etc scam. This makes a mailing list a constant headache and liability. Note: I mentioned some years ago that this was a stupid idea advanced by a monopoly, and yet... crickets out there.

3. I cannot take on another project to manage at this time.

What components/services are used today to run the mailinglist? Maybe it would not be so painful to move it over to one of my servers? I imagine that the traffic is tiny, so the most complicated thing would probably to create various DNS entries to point at the right server.

At this point nothing is that simple, and I like the forum format better than mailing lists, social media, and even hackjobs like Masodong.